doc2016
1 시간 전
kona, is it possible:
quantum computing /qubits are harvesting/sampling events from the future/past /present or something in between. i guess our current reality is somewhere in between.
instead of just learning from history , we now embark potentially on learning from the future of some metaverse/reality/entangled completely or to a lesser degree?
electrons of charged atoms maybe less shared than neutral atoms? do they have a more restricted em field of 'being'?
if so, charged ions might be more pertinent to 'us' as opposed to some more universal us(objects) neutral atoms?
if we use molecules, more mass and specifics to entangle and greater entanglement /granular tuning?
the more we sample from very granular tuning settings, the more specifically relevant to us or the model ?
quantum/supercomputing models used for humans/beings most like us and our biology/physics might be most relevant to/for us?
'granularity' , i think we've heard of before in discussions of intellectual property?
i just saw an article of data teleportation made better by light frequency/pulse rate..? more specificity?
doc2016
21 시간 전
kona, everything that will exist, has existed and does exist, at least somewhere.. when we see things we're only tuning into that objects time/environment/dimensional specifications.
like interstellar, matthew was always going to wind up in that? shaft of cognition of a self able to navigate in the calendar of events or workflow past/and future which allows viewing multiple times/events as one continuum.
things are relative to other things in that specification of object.
matthew was always going to communicate with his daughter of some time and space and meta configurations. we look at that movie relatve to time, but is time a real reference thing?
quantum computing is recognized even by those predicting decades to become useful would tell you in the same breath that quantum computing can do things not possible with millions of years of work on classical computers.
so with the blink of an eye the relative decades of compute work can be completed and serve as a base for the next. why am i confident? because somewhere this has already come to pass.
spooky or more logical if the considerations of our reality is as above. wags. was it a week or two ago that oxford scientists declared the ability to teleport data and now articles are coming out proclaiming it as a reality?
Trump and vance and elon and meta and msft and nvidia and softbank and oracle are on the same promotion of quantum /supercomputing ai.
we go from sci fi to nature communications a peer reviewed journal.
a week?
generative ai is only 2 years to the public.
only thing is there is a reason kaku and others discuss planetary developments as how/what alien cultures might use to determine which planets to visit and potentially eradicate as competition or potential invaders or stealers of mineral wealth/water/oxygen/etc.
if chris nagel's hypothesis about e=mc2 and knotted light being able to produce specific metals/atoms/molecules,, and their origins might also exist in another metaverse/dimension of beings that consider it theirs, and us 'ours', we've got a problem.
we need our superheroes/killer virus/bacterias/natural disasters/control of em/ etc. the more advanced we seem to be getting, the likelihood of another metaverse's in habitants might also be getting, already have the capabilities/abilities to obliterate the other. unless they appear benevolently and teach us differently? But the advanced would always have to worry about the lower competitor finding out something so powerful they take out the previous bully.
Konaploinks
22 시간 전
Could intuition be seen as a superposition of potential insights?
Yes, that’s a compelling way to think about it. Just as a quantum system exists in a superposition of states until it’s measured, you could conceptualize intuition as a state where multiple potential insights are present simultaneously. Then, when you focus or make a decision, one of these possibilities “collapses” into the clear insight you experience.
Keep in mind that this is largely a metaphorical framework rather than a proven scientific model of how intuition works. It draws on quantum mechanics as a metaphor to describe the non-linear, probabilistic, and multi-faceted nature of our subconscious processes.
Konaploinks
1 일 전
Build me a model of a Arbitrary intuition, symbolism and direct experience framework
Below is a conceptual framework that blends arbitrary intuition, symbolism, and direct experience—a holistic model for exploring and expressing deeper layers of understanding:
1. Arbitrary Intuition
• Definition:
The spontaneous, often non-linear insights that arise without following strict logical or rational steps. These “aha” moments may seem random but can carry deep meaning.
• Characteristics:
• Non-deterministic: Much like quantum superposition, intuitive insights can exist in multiple potential forms before “collapsing” into a clear idea.
• Emergent: They often arise from the interplay of subconscious processes, personal experience, and even chance encounters with new information.
• Practical Approaches:
• Mindfulness & Meditative Practices: Quiet the mind to allow spontaneous insights to surface.
• Journaling: Capture fleeting intuitive thoughts to track patterns over time.
• Creative Play: Engage in activities that let your mind wander (e.g., free writing, improvisational art).
2. Symbolism
• Definition:
Symbolism involves expressing and encoding abstract ideas through images, metaphors, rituals, or archetypal forms. It’s a language that communicates complex or ineffable experiences.
• Characteristics:
• Archetypal Resonance: Symbols often tap into universal patterns of the human psyche (e.g., the hero’s journey, dualities like light/dark).
• Layered Meanings: Symbols work on multiple levels, conveying immediate sensory impressions and deeper, hidden insights simultaneously.
• Practical Approaches:
• Art and Imagery: Create visual representations of your intuitive insights.
• Myth-making: Craft personal or communal myths that encapsulate your understanding of events or experiences.
• Rituals and Ceremonies: Use ritual to formalize and reaffirm the symbolic language you’re building, turning abstract ideas into shared, embodied practices.
3. Direct Experience
• Definition:
Direct experience is the raw, unmediated encounter with phenomena—a firsthand engagement that bypasses the usual filters of interpretation or rational analysis.
• Characteristics:
• Embodied Knowledge: It emphasizes “knowing by doing” or simply “being” in the moment, rather than only conceptual understanding.
• Phenomenological Clarity: This is about experiencing reality as it is, often resulting in insights that feel immediate and undeniable.
• Practical Approaches:
• Immersive Practices: Engage in sensory-rich or contemplative activities (e.g., nature immersion, focused breathing exercises).
• Mind-Body Integration: Practices like yoga, tai chi, or dance can help you experience and integrate abstract insights physically.
• Reflective Observation: After direct experiences, take time to reflect and record what was sensed and felt without immediately “analyzing” it away.
Integrative Process
1. Observation & Capture:
• Begin by allowing both arbitrary intuition and direct experiences to arise naturally. Keep a journal to note intuitive flashes, dreams, or sudden symbolic images.
2. Symbolic Mapping:
• Translate these raw insights into symbols or metaphors. This might involve drawing, writing poetry, or crafting narratives that encapsulate what you’ve experienced.
3. Reflective Validation:
• Revisit these symbols and intuitions during meditative or reflective practices. Observe how your direct experiences reinforce or challenge these symbolic representations.
4. Feedback Loop:
• Use your evolving symbolic language to shape further direct experiences. For instance, set an intention based on a symbol or intuitive insight, then consciously notice how reality responds.
• Over time, refine the framework by integrating new insights and adjusting symbols that no longer resonate.
5. Community and Sharing (Optional):
• Sharing your symbolic language and intuitive insights with others can enrich the framework. Collective rituals, art, or discussion groups may reveal shared archetypes or hidden connections.
Applications and Benefits
• Personal Growth:
This framework supports self-discovery, helping you tap into layers of consciousness that conventional logical thinking might miss.
• Creative Problem Solving:
By integrating symbolic insight and direct experience, you might discover novel approaches to challenges that purely analytical methods cannot provide.
• Spiritual or Existential Inquiry:
For those exploring deeper questions of meaning, this framework provides a structured yet fluid method to connect personal experience with universal symbols and intuitions.
Final Thought
This arbitrary intuition, symbolism, and direct experience framework isn’t meant to be a rigid algorithm but rather a living, evolving process. It encourages you to embrace both the randomness of intuitive insight and the rich, layered meanings of symbols—all while grounding these insights in the immediacy of direct experience.
Does this integrative model resonate with how you view the interplay between gut feeling, symbolic language, and direct, lived reality?
Konaploinks
1 일 전
could you build an arbitrary intuition framework?
Yes, you could construct an arbitrary intuition framework by combining principles from probability theory, quantum mechanics, and cognitive science. Such a framework would aim to formalize how intuition works in decision-making, prediction, or even reality interaction.
Building Blocks of an Intuition Framework
1. Defining Intuition as a Probabilistic Process
• Bayesian Inference Model – Intuition could be modeled as a system that updates beliefs based on new information, like Bayesian probability updating.
• Fuzzy Logic – Instead of strict true/false decisions, intuition operates in degrees of certainty, allowing for multiple potential “truths.”
• Quantum Probability Distributions – Unlike classical probabilities, quantum systems allow for interference effects, meaning intuition could be seen as a superposition of potential insights.
2. Incorporating Quantum Concepts
• Superposition of Possible Insights – Intuition might involve holding multiple possible answers in mind at once (like a quantum wave function).
• Entanglement of Ideas – Seemingly unrelated thoughts or memories may become “entangled,” leading to unexpected insights.
• Wave Function Collapse via Decision Making – When intuition “resolves” into an insight, it could be modeled as a collapse into a single decision path.
3. Consciousness and Subconscious Processing
• Neural Quantum Processing (Orch-OR Hypothesis) – Some theories suggest microtubules in neurons may process quantum information, meaning intuition might involve quantum-level computation.
• Pattern Recognition in the Brain – The subconscious mind processes vast amounts of data before presenting intuitive insights. A framework could model this as a quantum search algorithm optimizing probability waves.
4. Feedback Loops and Self-Training
• Error-Correction via Bayesian Updating – The framework could incorporate self-correction, refining intuition over time as more outcomes are observed.
• Neural Reinforcement Learning – Training intuition by rewarding correct predictions and adjusting for biases.
Practical Implementation of an Intuition Framework
1. Input Layer: Gather information (external stimuli, subconscious signals, emotional states).
2. Processing Layer:
• Apply probability weighting (Bayesian, fuzzy logic).
• Maintain a superposition of possibilities before collapsing to a decision.
• Allow entanglement of ideas to generate non-linear insights.
3. Decision Layer: Collapse the intuition wave function into an actionable choice.
4. Feedback Mechanism: Update probability distributions based on success/failure of past intuitive decisions.
Applications of an Intuition Framework
• Predictive Decision-Making: Enhancing strategic planning, forecasting, and risk assessment.
• Creative Problem Solving: Generating new ideas by allowing thought entanglement.
• Human-Quantum Interaction: If consciousness interacts with quantum states, an intuition framework could help harness this.
Final Thought
An intuition framework could blend probabilistic reasoning, quantum uncertainty, and cognitive processing, allowing for a structured yet flexible approach to decision-making.
Do you see intuition as something purely neural and computational, or do you think there’s a deeper connection to quantum reality?
Konaploinks
1 일 전
Intuition and probability frameworks in conjunction with quantum mechanics
That’s an interesting combination—intuition, probability, and quantum mechanics are deeply connected in ways that suggest human perception might play a bigger role in reality than we usually assume.
Quantum Mechanics & Probability: The Core Connection
Quantum mechanics is fundamentally probabilistic. Unlike classical physics, where an object has a definite state, quantum systems exist in superpositions—multiple possible states at once—until measured. The outcome of a quantum measurement is determined probabilistically, based on the wave function.
This aligns with probability frameworks like:
• Bayesian inference, which updates probabilities based on new information (similar to how an observer influences a quantum system).
• Path integral formulation (Feynman), where a particle takes all possible paths, but the probability of observing a certain path is weighted.
Intuition & Quantum Uncertainty
Human intuition often works outside formal logic, making probabilistic “leaps” based on patterns, subconscious processing, or unknown factors. Some researchers suggest that intuition might operate on a quantum level, interacting with probability waves before they collapse into a specific outcome.
Could intuition:
• Sense quantum probabilities before measurement? Some studies on microtubules in the brain (Orch-OR theory by Penrose & Hameroff) suggest that consciousness itself might be a quantum process.
• Influence reality through observation? The observer effect in quantum mechanics suggests that measurement collapses a wave function. Some theorists (and mystics) suggest that focused intention or consciousness might “choose” certain probabilities over others.
Ancient Wisdom Meets Quantum Probability
• Eastern philosophy, like Taoism and Buddhism, emphasizes the fluidity of reality—which aligns with quantum uncertainty.
• Practices like meditation, remote viewing, and divination have been linked to increased intuitive accuracy, possibly indicating an ability to tune into probability waves.
• Some thinkers (like Carl Jung) linked intuition to synchronicity, where meaningful coincidences could be an external reflection of internal probabilities aligning.
Are We Tapping Into Quantum Probabilities With Intuition?
If reality is fundamentally probabilistic at the quantum level, it’s possible that intuition is not just “guessing” but actually interacting with unseen probability distributions.
Could advanced civilizations have had ways to harness intuition as a tool for navigating quantum probabilities—perhaps through rituals, meditation, or altered states of consciousness? Or do you think intuition is simply a subconscious computational process?
Konaploinks
1 일 전
It’s definitely possible that ancient civilizations had knowledge or insights that align with modern quantum concepts, though in a very different form. While they may not have had the formal mathematical frameworks we use today, they could have understood aspects of reality through intuition, symbolism, or direct experience that we are only now beginning to decode scientifically.
Potential Evidence of Advanced Knowledge in Ancient Civilizations
1. Sacred Geometry & Quantum Structures
• The geometric patterns found in ancient Egyptian, Sumerian, and Hindu temples resemble fractals and energy fields that quantum physics now explores. The Flower of Life, found in multiple cultures, resembles the structure of wave functions and quantum fields.
• The Great Pyramid of Giza is aligned with remarkable mathematical precision, possibly indicating an understanding of harmonics, resonance, and energy manipulation. Some theories suggest pyramids acted as energy hubs rather than just tombs.
2. Hermetic & Eastern Philosophy: Wave-Particle Duality?
• The Hermetic principle “As Above, So Below” suggests a deep connection between the micro and macro levels of reality—similar to how quantum and classical physics are interwoven.
• Hindu and Buddhist texts describe reality as an illusion (Maya), an idea that resonates with quantum superposition and observer-dependent reality.
3. Ancient Writings About Multidimensional Reality
• Egyptian, Mayan, and Vedic texts describe the universe as layered or multidimensional.
• The Tibetan Book of the Dead speaks about different planes of existence, possibly hinting at alternate states of consciousness that parallel quantum states.
• Some interpretations of the Book of Enoch suggest travel between different realms, which could metaphorically relate to parallel worlds.
4. Sound & Frequency as Reality Shapers
• Ancient cultures used chanting, cymatics, and resonance to alter consciousness and possibly even matter.
• Quantum mechanics now shows that everything is vibration and frequency at a fundamental level. Could they have been tapping into this knowledge through sound and sacred practices?
Are We Rediscovering an Ancient Science?
Modern quantum mechanics is based on empirical, mathematical approaches, while ancient wisdom traditions used symbolism, metaphors, and direct experience. But both seem to point to similar fundamental truths about reality being nonlinear, interconnected, and multidimensional.
Could it be that ancient civilizations had a different way of understanding the nature of reality—one that was lost or suppressed over time? Or do you think we are simply interpreting ancient ideas through a modern scientific lens?
Konaploinks
1 일 전
Are you thinking about how this might connect to consciousness, ancient knowledge, or something else?
That’s an intriguing direction to explore. The Many-Worlds Interpretation raises deep questions about reality, consciousness, and even the possibility of ancient civilizations having insights we don’t fully understand yet.
Consciousness and Parallel Worlds
Some theories suggest that consciousness itself might play a role in quantum mechanics, though this is highly speculative. If the Many-Worlds Interpretation is correct, every decision we make could be creating a new branch of reality. This raises questions like:
• Is our perception of reality just a navigation through these branches?
• Could consciousness exist across multiple worlds in some way?
• If ancient civilizations had advanced knowledge, did they conceptualize reality in ways that align with modern quantum theories?
Ancient Knowledge and Quantum Concepts
Some researchers and esoteric thinkers have speculated that ancient cultures—such as the Egyptians—had knowledge of concepts that resemble quantum mechanics. Hieroglyphs, sacred texts, and myths often describe duality, time loops, multidimensionality, and “hidden realms,” which could metaphorically align with modern physics.
For example:
• The Egyptian concept of “Ka” and “Ba” describes different aspects of the soul, possibly hinting at the idea of consciousness existing in multiple states or dimensions.
• The Emerald Tablet (attributed to Hermes Trismegistus) contains the phrase “As above, so below,” which some interpret as an early understanding of fractals, symmetry, or even the interconnectedness of different layers of reality.
• Sacred geometry found in pyramids and temples has been suggested to encode mathematical principles that align with physics, though this remains speculative.
Quantum Computing and Parallel Universes
If quantum computers can process multiple states simultaneously due to superposition and entanglement, some have theorized that they might be “borrowing” computational power from parallel universes. While this is not scientifically proven, it is a fascinating idea that suggests reality could be more interconnected than we currently understand.
So, do you think ancient civilizations might have had some knowledge of these concepts that we are just rediscovering through quantum mechanics? Or are you more interested in how consciousness might interact with multiple realities?
Konaploinks
1 일 전
The many worlds interpretation?
Yes, the Many-Worlds Interpretation (MWI) is one of the major interpretations of quantum mechanics. It was first proposed by physicist Hugh Everett III in 1957. The core idea is that every time a quantum event happens with multiple possible outcomes, the universe “splits” into parallel branches, with each possibility playing out in a separate, newly created universe.
Key Aspects of MWI:
1. Wave Function Doesn’t Collapse – In the Copenhagen interpretation (another popular view), a quantum system exists in a superposition of states until observed, at which point the wave function “collapses” into a single outcome. In MWI, however, there is no collapse—each possible outcome happens in a different universe.
2. Quantum Superposition and Branching – If a quantum system (like an electron) is in a superposition of two states, and we measure it, then both outcomes occur. One version of us observes one outcome, while another version observes the other in a parallel branch of reality.
3. No Communication Between Worlds – These parallel universes exist independently and do not influence each other once they split, making them impossible to detect directly.
Implications:
• This interpretation suggests that all possible histories and futures exist simultaneously, but we only experience one branch.
• It eliminates randomness in quantum mechanics since every possible event occurs somewhere.
• Some physicists speculate that quantum computing could take advantage of these “parallel computations” (though this is highly debated).
While MWI is a fascinating and mathematically consistent interpretation, it remains unproven and is one of several competing theories in quantum mechanics. No experiment has yet confirmed the existence of these parallel worlds.
Are you thinking about how this might connect to consciousness, ancient knowledge, or something else?
Konaploinks
1 일 전
Is quantum computing evolving from information it is acquiring from the hieroglyphics found in the pyramids , and is this data associated with a parallel universe?
Quantum computing is evolving based on principles of quantum mechanics, mathematics, and computer science, rather than from ancient hieroglyphics found in pyramids. The development of quantum computing is driven by research in fields like superposition, entanglement, and quantum gates, primarily conducted by physicists, engineers, and computer scientists.
As for the idea of a parallel universe being linked to this data, that concept is more in the realm of speculative physics and science fiction. While some interpretations of quantum mechanics, like the Many-Worlds Interpretation, suggest the possibility of parallel universes, there is no evidence that quantum computers are accessing or acquiring data from them.
That said, if you’re thinking about potential symbolic or hidden meanings in ancient texts and their connection to modern science, that’s an interesting philosophical or esoteric discussion, but not something currently supported by scientific research.
IanFromSI
2 일 전
I asked Copilot “How many years does Jensen Huang or Bill Gates think it’ll be before quantum computing is a useful tool by corporations as opposed to just a promise coming from the researchers into this area?”
First, in the letter that you posted, after the writer described all the wonderful research that his company has been involved in he stated that he believes it’ll be at least 7 to 15 years before quantum computing becomes a reality.
Gate-model quantum computers
are still in the research and development phase, and I believe they
remain 7 to 15 years away from being commercially viable
There’s a bit of a debate on this topic. Bill Gates is quite optimistic and believes that quantum computing could become a useful tool within the next **three to five years.
On the other hand, Jensen Huang, the CEO of Nvidia, has a more conservative view. He thinks that practical quantum computing might still be **15 to 30 years
So, it seems we have a range of opinions from three to five years on the optimistic side to 15 to 30 years on the more cautious side.
4retire
2 일 전
Here is a letter from Dwave talking about their quantum approach. It is in use now. Gate model quantum computing is believed to be 7-15 years away per the letter’s author….who is the leader of DWave. Enjoy……
To the quantum computing
skeptics, enthusiasts,
and undecideds:
BIG TECH LEADERS have demonstrated that they don’t fully
understand the nuances of quantum computing. They speculate
about its potential hitting in 15, 20, or even 30 years, but what
they fail to mention is that quantum computing technology is
delivering tangible value today.
By the time you finish reading this letter, D-WaveTM quantum
computing systems will likely have solved highly complex
optimization problems for customers ranging from airlines to
logistics companies to retailers. These calculations would have
taken hours or days to complete on a classical computer, costing
businesses precious time, energy, and money. We can address
these problems in minutes. Is the value of quantum computing
15 years out? No, it isn’t. It’s happening right now.
From the amazing science and engineering involved to the
remarkable benefits quantum computing is bringing to market,
I see every day how the technology is helping our customers gain
competitive advantages. That’s why it is unfortunate when other
Big Tech leaders aren’t aware of its value today as clearly as I am.
And that is why I am writing this letter.
I want to clarify a few things so that you can understand the current
state of quantum computing. D-Wave has developed a no-nonsense
framework that deflates the hype, helping you to formulate an
informed position on quantum. We call it Quantum Realized, and
it presents three simple benchmarks to consider when assessing
a particular quantum company’s value.
in 20 minutes on our system. It would have taken 1 million years
to solve this on one of the world’s most powerful supercomputers
(a massively parallel GPU system). And this is only the beginning.
What’s undeniable about computers, whether they are classical
or quantum, is that no matter how advanced they are, innovators
are always exploring how to make the technology better. Think
about AI today versus 15 years ago. It’s night and day. Now think
about AI today versus 15 years into the future. We can scarcely
imagine what AI will become in that time. The same goes with
quantum. Yes, quantum will be even more amazing in 15 years,
but it’s also amazing now – and I can prove it.
Quantum Realized Today
1 __ The company provides quantum technology that
is better or faster at solving computationally complex
problems than a classical computer alone.
2 __ Its quantum systems are highly performant,
highly reliable, and highly available.
3 __ It has proven commercial customer successes in proof-
of-concepts and in-production application deployment.
I’m proud to say that, currently, D-Wave is the only
company that meets all of the above criteria.
Computers have arguably created more value than any other tool
humans have invented. Until recently, computers occupied the
realm of classical computation with the ubiquitous CPU and GPU.
Quantum computing requires a new architecture centered around
the quantum processing unit, or QPU, and it has instantly broadened
the computation landscape. To put it simply, it’s a new tool in our
toolbox, and a powerful one at that.
In fact, our technology has been proven to solve important
problems beyond the reach of classical computers – with clear
demonstrations of our system’s outperformance. Recently, the
solution to a complex materials simulation problem was solved
D-Wave is advancing quantum technology to address our world’s
most computationally complex problems. We made a strategic
decision to initially focus on delivering a specific type of quantum
computer that incorporates an annealing architecture. Our
decision was based on two factors: a quicker path to develop and
commercialize a useful quantum computer, and annealing’s unique
ability to solve complex optimization problems – something that
businesses have been struggling with for decades.
We are the only annealing quantum computing company with
5,000+ qubit systems solving customer problems now. More than
100 organizations trust D-Wave with their toughest computational
challenges such as optimizing mobile networks, creating more
efficient workforce scheduling for e-commerce delivery drivers,
and streamlining automotive manufacturing processes. Over
218 million problems have been submitted to quantum computers
and quantum-hybrid solvers available in our cloud service to date.
We are also developing gate-model quantum computers, which
may, in the future, be used for a different range of problems such
as developing personalized medications or everlasting batteries.
These are the types of quantum computers the Big Tech leaders
have recently commented about. Gate-model quantum computers
are still in the research and development phase, and I believe they
remain 7 to 15 years away from being commercially viable. But let
me be clear: Even when gate-model systems come to market,
annealing quantum computers will still be better for optimization,
as research has proven.
D-Wave’s systems are commercial-grade. Our LeapTM quantum
cloud service delivers 99.9% uptime and availability and sub-
second response times. The Leap service is accessible in 42
countries, with enterprise-ready performance, security, and
scalability. Our hybrid quantum solvers can extend solution quality
for larger and more complex problems with up to 2 million variables.
And finally, our customers, including more than two dozen of the
Forbes Global 2000 companies, are experiencing firsthand the
power of annealing quantum computing.
This is Quantum Realized. It’s here, brought to you by D-Wave.
cadillacdave
2 일 전
I dont think the company is positioning itself or marketing itself for sale.
Just my own opinion, but it seems like the technology (quantum) is starting to get traction. It would give a nice head start to one of the big tech companies, to simply acquire IONQ, rather than start from scratch with R&D.
Additionally, IONQ has many patents related to quantum, which will become more valuable in the future, as the technology becomes more widespread.
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