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Wingsjr Wingsjr 1 분 전
Shelly, can you sticky this? Brilliant response by Navy.
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navycmdr navycmdr 16 분 전
my e-mail reply to this article ....

Possibility Of Privatizing Fannie, Freddie Raises Questions
About The Future Of Crucial Mortgage Guarantee

https://www.bisnow.com/national/news/capital-markets/tracing-trumps-most-likely-route-to-privatizing-fannie-mae-and-freddie-mac-127127

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NeoSunTzu NeoSunTzu 16 분 전
Maybe Whalen needs to see a few of these responses on his feed ... Whalen may need to be investigated for price manipulation ... he may have a financial interest in driving the price down - either a direct or an indirect financial interest through clients or other Wall Street connections ... maybe FINRA should be contacted - everyone now knows this stock is in play and volatile and timing is everything and his timing is impeccably matched with significant drops ... maybe some of his clients should be investigated as well, it could be in their interest to use Whalen as a mouthpiece or platform to continually drive the price down ... he should be treated by authorities no different than Roaring Kitty ... light him up boys!
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Wingsjr Wingsjr 20 분 전
I know about it. Had nothing to do with the incoming team. Before you cherry pick, I could cherry pick the Mein Kampf to match a policy the D’s have on their platform. That’s why I called it a talking point. I’m going to delete this in 30 min because it is political. Neutral but still political.
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trunkmonk trunkmonk 22 분 전
Issue is too much info or bantering confuses new GSE investors, or just people who don’t come here that often. Here a lot of clowns say they are online for entertainment, even pretend to be young interesting women for men. One of those guys worked for me at a Hospital. Good thing he was very good at his job, his hobby and entertainment was concerning. Too many freaks out there, don’t be one of them I keep telling myself. Have fun at expense of no one, defend God, family, country, investments in that order. If not the priorities are messed up and will never lead to the golden streets in the markets, in life, and after. Me hostile🤣, u ain’t seen me hostile.
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Guido2 Guido2 23 분 전
The hit-and-run specialist has turned off comments for his article.
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FOFreddie FOFreddie 24 분 전
Good Point regarding the neutrality of Judges - Dont you agree it is true with SCOTUS or is it just JB appointees you are referring to?
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navycmdr navycmdr 24 분 전
Josh Rosner's latest reply to Whalen ... joshua rosner @JoshRosner

So many more poor assumptions to take apart,

especially the BS 100% risk weighting.

Also, unlike banks that create money, GSEs as pass throughs, don’t.

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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 26 분 전
solid
but why do you know or say that

GOV as in TREASURY? (FHFA is GOV but its F and F $$)
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 27 분 전
Interesting

Was Collins the CLAIMS court - because eventually that case was killed by a "normal" (not damages pay me) appeals circuit court
but at first Sweeney to my memory was FIRST to allow discovery and we learned a lot (to no avail)

??
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navycmdr navycmdr 40 분 전
Joshua Rosner is not letting Whalen (drivel) get away with his Hack piece ...

lemmings aren't buying the Whalen garbage - price recovering




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Brooge warrants cancelled Brooge warrants cancelled 41 분 전
damn , you really have no life
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navycmdr navycmdr 42 분 전
notice the Drive by Attack artists totally FAIL to mention

little details like the Unanimous 8-0 DC JURY Verdict

against the GOVT (Damages plus Interest ) - Oh they

also FAIL to mention the $140 Billion net worth of the GSEs

and the High avg credit score of the GSE MBS and being

profitable for OVER A DECADE with Qtrly RETAINED PROFITS ---
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 42 분 전
interesting
but if Musk convinces the powers to be to fire half - that does nothing for us - as we are looking at Trillions of dollars of MBS paper and 300B of "so called GAAP" obligation

Saving a billion in staffing can improve earnings for whomever owns what % in GOV FY 26
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trunkmonk trunkmonk 43 분 전
The KTCarneyCorkersCircus never ever do unbias thinking. Kinda a joke to ask of shareholders who have done level headed DD for over 10 years. Libtards everywhere
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 44 분 전
I was being sarcastic

but F and F information will likely come out of different SILOS of information

sure seems that way

we need to be careful of detail and who SAYS what and when

Since the announcement of "alternative facts" --- hard to know what is up and what is down - without searching for "two versions" of just about everything

But when printed on paper - hard to say it does not exist (e.g. we can not debate what HERA says - although judges can debate what is meant if they think some language is not complete or 100% clear )
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 46 분 전
I doubt if F and F are in it but -- unless you are "joking" --- you need to do some "neutral" searching on the free web

Project 2025 (also known as the 2025 Presidential Transition Project[3]) is a political initiative published in April 2022 by the American conservative think tank the Heritage Foundation. The project aims to promote conservative and right-wing policies to reshape the federal government of the United States and consolidate executive power, originally under the premise that Donald Trump wins the 2024 presidential election.[4][5][6]

(and you can find all its pages - like 700 - written by dozens of people - many in DJT orbit - at the Heritage website)

again - even with tons of pages and authors - I doubt F and F ever got a sentence
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 49 분 전
thank you

seems we lost and lost and lost - on merits as viewed by judges (and HERA language) for YEARS and YEARS

as I read your post - you are saying KELLY that might have found the window to enter ----- found the time had past to try ?

Seems to me -- be it an R or D or whatever judge - some things (I sure hope) are NEUTRAL as the law ?
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naveedkhan naveedkhan 58 분 전
Easy. Ur like a hostile Mr kotter giving vinnie barbarino his grades. I was just trying to get this guy to show how he gets to his pps
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naveedkhan naveedkhan 58 분 전
Easy. Ur like a hostile Mr kotter giving vinnie barbarino his grades. I was just trying to get this guy to show how he gets to his pps
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Sammy boy Sammy boy 1 시간 전
Where’s the Mush that loaded up in the high 3’s ?
Lmfao never fails with this group !
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stink stack stink stack 1 시간 전
Will you post real time pps? My dial up is down. I cannot even us my fax machine. I should upgrade to a Shell phone like bradturd.
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navycmdr navycmdr 1 시간 전
Whalen can't stand to be WRONG - but still on the BANKSTER ATTACK

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Clark6290 Clark6290 1 시간 전
Buckle up Amigo, pps falling off the cliff
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navycmdr navycmdr 1 시간 전
The Stability Myth- Why GSE MBS Don’t Need Guarantees

and Release Won’t Widen Spreads - Joshua Rosner




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Semper Fi 88 Semper Fi 88 1 시간 전
https://www.theinstitutionalriskanalyst.com/post/kamikaze-gse-release
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Guido2 Guido2 2 시간 전
https://x.com/GuidoPerei/status/1866852354655723602
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navycmdr navycmdr 2 시간 전
after getting royally whacked by Joshua Rosner about his erroneous Hack piece article:

The Stability Myth- Why GSE MBS Don’t Need Guarantees and Release Won’t Widen Spreads

https://www.scribd.com/document/800768968/12-03-2024-GF-Co-The-Stability-Myth-Why-GSE-MBS-Don-t-Need-Guarantees-and-Release-Won-t-Widen-Spreads

Whalen (shill for the Banksters) is at it yet again :

https://www.theinstitutionalriskanalyst.com/post/kamikaze-gse-release

R. Christopher Whalen 21 hours ago

Kamikaze GSE Release? Oh Yeah...

We publish this revised post from December 2nd for all of our readers.
We corrected the earlier post, as noted, but the basic thesis of exit "as is"
remains valid -- even more so now.

Recap & release seems a given under the Administration of Donald Trump, but may be even more a challenge for mortgage markets than we first imagined.

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Golfbum22 Golfbum22 2 시간 전
Whalen really trying hard to sink the share price again for his tbtf paying him friends to cover their shorts before Jan 20th

How many times did he repeat moody’s downgrade fake news and the government owns the gse’s
And last but not least the 200 billion $ windfalll

I feel sorry for him having to make up lies for a living

Anyone can use that line on x because I don’t do social media

Hopefully this lame article is ignored like the boy who cried wolf over and over again.

I don’t think this article will have much to do with the price today but the MM’s might

We need to get off the OTC asap

Come on Jan 20th

This fake news will get shot down

Go FnF

Note-price is up at the open today
Everyone laugh at Whalen on x
His hit piece didn’t work
Too funny
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navycmdr navycmdr 2 시간 전
Possibility Of Privatizing Fannie, Freddie Raises Questions About

The Future Of Crucial Mortgage Guarantee

December 9, 2024 Matt Wasielewski, South Florida

President-elect Donald Trump’s return to the White House has reignited speculation about
the privatization of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, an effort he proposed during his first term.



As the housing sector waits for details of a plan to emerge, economists, bankers and brokers are
keenly interested to see whether the federal government's guarantee on
mortgage-backed securities will survive any reform.

A product of the Global Financial Crisis, the government's support of the sector has become its
defining feature and a facet of the system that would have widespread impacts on multifamily
lending if dropped.

“No matter what structure they come up with that they call privatization, the government is going
to have to be heavily involved with its balance sheet as a backstop,” said Stuart Boesky, founder
and CEO of New York-based multifamily lender Pembrook Capital Management. “Otherwise,
our whole system of financing will drastically change.”

Since the mortgage market collapse and subsequent Great Recession, Fannie Mae and
Freddie Mac have been under federal oversight. The government sets the rules, but it also
guarantees that the mortgage-backed securities being sold will never default in a process
called conservatorship.

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are by far the most active participants in the $11Trillion
mortgage-backed securities market, with $310B in average daily trading volume as of
November, according to trader-broker trade organization Sifma.

Trump’s allies have been preparing to relaunch privatization efforts since before his
election night victory, and Republicans have for years chafed at the conservatorship
program.

“Markets expect — maybe not immediately, but over the course of the second Trump
administration — much more of an effort to release them from conservatorship,” said
Mike Fratantoni, senior vice president and chief economist at the Mortgage Bankers
Association. “From a market participant's perspective, it's really a question of,
what does that look like?”

In a 2018 proposal, the Trump administration promised to make Fannie Mae and
Freddie Mac “fully private entities,” HousingWire reported at the time. The plans
fizzled after Joe Biden’s victory in the 2020 race for the White House, but Trump’s
win last month has once again shifted the calculation.

“With the [2024] election, it went from unlikely to possible,” Fratantoni said.

The stock prices of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have more than doubled since
Donald Trump won a second term in the White House on Nov. 5, an indication
that investors feel privatization is likely.

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac exist by charter to ensure the supply of capital in
mortgage markets and to promote affordable housing development. The agencies
don’t directly underwrite any mortgages, instead purchasing loans from other
firms before packaging the debt and selling it into a secondary market.

The mortgage guarantee limits investor exposure, reducing their overall risk and
increasing the security asset’s value. While key in the multifamily commercial real
estate space, the federal guarantee is also the key reason for the success of the
30-year fixed-rate mortgages that underpin the U.S. housing market, a uniquely
American creation made possible because the government assumes some of
the long-term risk.


Fannie Mae

The Trump administration first floated a plan to privatize Fannie Mae in 2018.
Any significant change to the securities market would create volatility in the
housing market and could upend the Federal Reserve’s attempt to avoid a
recession while taming inflation.

Mortgage Bankers Association CEO Bob Broeksmit wrote in a blog post last
week that his organization wanted to help facilitate a “safe and sound exit
plan” from conservatorship that included an explicit federal mortgage
guarantee, which Broeksmit said was essential for maintaining stability
and liquidity in the secondary market.

“An unwelcome outcome would be confusion about to what extent the
government is standing behind the security,” Fratantoni said. “Our worry
is that there's a sense that there's a rush to get through this.”

The elimination of a federal guarantee would not only push down the
value of the securities offered by the agencies but also likely lead their
credit to deteriorate and their debt costs to rise, Boesky said.

The agencies are also amid an expanding investigation meant to root
out fraud in its books that Fannie Mae said in third-quarter reporting
was the greatest risk factor facing the agency. It has suspended deal
making with several mortgage brokers as it scrutinizes its
balance sheet.

“If they have the same capital level and it was privatized today, they
would gap out so wide that it would be prohibitive,” Boesky said,
using a term that refers to a wide and rapid swing in valuation.

It is a risk officials in the first Trump administration seemed aware of.
The 2018 plan included the creation of an insurance program with
an “explicit Federal guarantee” that would only be “exposed in limited,
exigent circumstances,” according to HousingWire. The program
would effectively replace the backstop that exists through conservatorship.

The Trump transition team didn’t respond to Bisnow’s request for comment.

“Pretty much everyone thinks that [Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac] should
pay the Treasury some sort of standby commitment fee for backstopping
their obligations,” said Michael LaCour-Little, a semiretired finance
professor at California State University, Fullerton and former director of
economics at Fannie Mae. “Nobody knows quite what that number
should be either.”

The 2018 proposal said “other competitive entrants” to the mortgage
securities market would have access to the insurance program. But the
reach of any insurance program would likely be a sticking point in any
effort to unmoor the agencies from the federal government, Boesky said.

The backstop would have to be offered to every mortgage securities
broker to avoid creating a two-tiered market where one type of
investment is significantly riskier.

“You’d have private mortgage companies and private securitizers,”
Boesky said. “And then you’d have this gold-plated group.”
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JSmith5 JSmith5 2 시간 전
Uplisting - There should not be too many concerns about whether or not an uplisting to NYSE and any sales of the Government's interest would be successful regardless of the size of the amount. Because of the Government backing (whether it ends up implicit, explicit, a vague "maybe" or whatever) as this stock would be considered more closely analogous to a Government bond. If the companies become "utility-like" even more so. The world is awash in cash looking for a home. For example, I googled to find the amount of average daily Treasury sales and got the following:

"According to data from SIFMA, the average daily amount of US Treasury debt sold is around $879 billion. This figure represents the average trading volume in the Treasury market, which includes both primary dealer activity and secondary market transactions.."

So sales involving a couple of hundred billion dollars - and it won't be all at once - will be money coming out of the chump change jars of some hedge funds, sovereign wealth funds and/or companies like Berkshire Hathaway ($277B cash/treasuries and growing). We are talking less than 1/4 of one day's Treasury sales. Although large, you can't compare it to a normal stock offering.

And for those of you who insist that the Government won't cash in any of its interest whether seniors or warrants or both - regardless of whether they do or not - the demand for these shares will be overwhelming once they get on a real stock exchange.

Again, don't get wrapped around the axle because of a concern that it may "set the record". And definitely don't be concerned about investor demand because "they screwed the legacy stockholders over". They will buy because that screwing provides an opportunity for them.

Compared to the volume of daily transactions of Treasuries and other transactions of similar size across the globe - the size of the sales would be nothing to brag on - sort of like saying you own the biggest house in Hyattsville - like, so what!!

Nats
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Spicoli Spicoli 2 시간 전
https://x.com/rcwhalen/status/1866827345224773970
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trunkmonk trunkmonk 3 시간 전
math = big fat F. If it was joke then GSE commons humor = F too.
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naveedkhan naveedkhan 8 시간 전
I believe your arithmetic is off. It’s 3 cents. Show me how you came to that valuation and I’ll let u know where u went wrong.
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RickNagra RickNagra 10 시간 전
https://x.com/freefannie/status/1866667720642883727?s=46&t=xLP2LlWgJrEMUZZ7Fum-nA
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jog49 jog49 11 시간 전
"Also, I'm not so sure we were not some sort of pawns in the game for Cap Wealth's end goals"

Interesting comment!
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evenpar evenpar 13 시간 전
Why are you here? You're a liberal embarrassment just like your candidate, didn't you embarrass yourself enough? I'll give you credit you have some gonads for even showing up here again but this is the Fannie Mae investment board not a liberal trash political board try to remember that... Biden will probably go down as the worst president in history instead of going after the right try to look inside your own party and find out what went wrong. But my guess is you'll still walk around with sheep clothes on
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mrfence mrfence 13 시간 전
That could happen after up listing to the NYSE and Conservatorship release which would be a non event insofar as dilution is concerned. In the mean time, there's a moratorium on issuing new shares.
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habib7 habib7 13 시간 전
Perhaps. But there could be further dilution through JPS conversion or issuance of more common to raise capital.
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jeddiemack jeddiemack 13 시간 전
Sure he means well... but until they stop postulating about using the warrants and double re-paying the sps... he's persona nongrata..
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NeoSunTzu NeoSunTzu 14 시간 전
Back in 2013 Pagliara, along with Investors Unite, took a large group of us out to D.C to meet lawmakers ... a sort of citizens lobby. I have no way to measure the impact we made, but I don't think it was meaningful. Also, I'm not so sure we were not some sort of pawns in the game for Cap Wealth's end goals - again, no way for me to truly assess that possibility.

I do know that 4 or 5 of the small group I was associated with are either no longer in this, no longer allowed to post on this board (one received a lifetime ban from iHub - I'm not even sure how you go about earning that rather unique badge), or have just decided to go silent. The guy with the rather odd music (country?) videos was one - he was totally unlike the videos you see - although those came later, maybe fannie blew his mind out ... Bradford was there and If I'm not mistaken Rick was there as well. Anyone know if David Sims is still around?
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mrfence mrfence 15 시간 전
In addition to running CapWealth, Tim has evolved into an activist investor, working on non-partisan projects with elected federal officials to fix America’s debt problem and promote a pro-growth agenda that has the potential to put the country and her citizens on a better fiscal and economic path. In 2014, he founded The Main Street Growth & Opportunity Coalition. The group is a national alliance of businesses, local trade organizations, and concerned citizens that support Tim’s pro-growth hopes for America.

Also, in 2014, Tim founded Investors Unite. The organization would become the inspiration behind his book, Another Big Lie, which tells the story of Tim’s tireless work representing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac shareholders. The group works closely with Washington insiders to seek a full restitution of dividends seized from investors by the Treasury Department.

An active philanthropist, Tim’s foundation, Pagliara Family Charities, helped start a school in Tanzania that now enrolls 4,300 students with a curriculum that prepares them for careers in math and science.

Tim earned his undergraduate degree at St. Louis University and a law degree from St. Louis University School of Law. He also graduated from the Wharton School Securities Industry Institute at the University of Pennsylvania and is a Tennessee Bar Association member.
https://timpagliara.com/about/
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Stern is Bald Stern is Bald 15 시간 전
Yes good luck...  hope the GSEs play out and all make $$$
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Wingsjr Wingsjr 15 시간 전
What a great November, got to see my brothers I flew with in Eastern Europe, we talked about FNMA. Some major influencers were hired and the future has never been better for our investments. How about you SiB? Good November? Hope your holidays are great again like Fannie and Freddie will be. 😎🇺🇸🤑
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mrfence mrfence 15 시간 전
Down 1/2 penny! Where's the window? Shite, this is only a two story house. It'll never work.
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mrfence mrfence 15 시간 전
That makes so much sense because the Gooberment wants $0.05 per warrant. Sarcasm intended.
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RickNagra RickNagra 16 시간 전
https://x.com/ricknagra/status/1866632945362161941?s=46&t=xLP2LlWgJrEMUZZ7Fum-nA
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mrfence mrfence 16 시간 전
I didn't notice until you asked, phewy!
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RickNagra RickNagra 16 시간 전
https://x.com/ricknagra/status/1866631784978583746?s=46&t=xLP2LlWgJrEMUZZ7Fum-nA
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mrfence mrfence 16 시간 전
Of course I do. For you, I recommend reading Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance. Required philosophy reading by my Harvard Professor.
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