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Nikola Corporation

Nikola Corporation (NKLA)

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igotthemojo igotthemojo 2 시간 전
“but that wasn't by the current management”

Did all management get fired and replaced along with the ceo?…because I suspect the ceo wasn’t flying solo with that fraud…there were quite likely many in management, vp’s, directors etc who had knowledge of what was taking place…which makes them complicit…

Thus “that wasn’t done by the current management” may not be accurate…

“as you say the older management were investigated and brought to justice”

The ceo was…not “management” to my knowledge…

So I can’t really say someone who feels there could have been fraud is dead wrong…I don’t believe there was…but I can’t state for a fact there wasn’t or even that it is highly unlikely…

It would be highly unlikely if there had never been any fraud allegations previously…but there has…big time…

“If Trevor would pay his restitution ($100m +) we would have another quarter of getting closer to FCEV 2.0”

It wouldn’t make a bit of difference…he should pay that money to a reputable charity where it can do some good…
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TheKRA TheKRA 10 시간 전
UK, I agree with you. I don't understand why the restitution hasn't been collected, and indeed it would have helped a lot. I'm frustrated that though there is a settlement against Milton, that there hasn't been a quick collection of funds. This is a breakdown in our justice system, as I see it.
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uksausage uksausage 10 시간 전
but that wasn't by the current management

our statement was definitely directed at the current management "Company is a fraud, needs to be investigated."

as you say the older management were investigated and brought to justice

If Trevor would pay his restitution ($100m +) we would have another quarter of getting closer to FCEV 2.0
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igotthemojo igotthemojo 11 시간 전
“Far fewer mgt issues here than with PLUG though
please tell me what fraud there has been”

2 1/2 yrs ago, the founder and ceo of Nkla was sentenced to 4 yrs in prison for fraud…

I don’t believe there has been any fraud recently…just ineptness and a very bad business model…

But clearly, there has absolutely been fraud in their history…
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uksausage uksausage 13 시간 전
there is no fraud.

I lost far more than $10k on this and the fuel cell stocks. the business strategy was fine but in NKLAs case they hit some issues - the BEV recalls for sure was a problem.
Things take longer than mgt planned and of course policy changes cant help.

I learned a lot about cutting losses and I keep watching as I believe i limiting emissions and this is a great product. When the time is right and if they are still tradable and not private then I will jump in again but they need to be operating cash flow positive.

Far fewer mgt issues here than with PLUG though

please tell me what fraud there has been
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Torez Torez 13 시간 전
Yeah yeah. Tell this to people who bought it 2 years ago. 10k investment is worth $100.
Company is a fraud,  needs to be investigated. Good thing I only lost like $250 on this scam 
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igotthemojo igotthemojo 15 시간 전
" hey are so close to being successful"

they are miles away and they know it...they had zero chance of getting it done...i cant imagine private equity wanting to touch nkla with a ten foot pole...
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uksausage uksausage 16 시간 전
how did thy steal investors money?

their filings and reports have been clear since Girsky took over. They needed $100m a quarter - reduced by making cuts to c $30m a quarter
they originally were targeting 12 months cash then that got reduced in order to minimize dilution - to 3-6 months cash and the Q3 report said they had cash to just scrape through Q1.
Their sales strategy was laid out as they lose money on every FCEV colsd the customer had to be part of the national account approach and we saw 10 and 30 unit orders with major trucking companies being fulfilled and great reviews.

but national account s have yet to comit to 100+ orders against whic they could make the supply chain commitments to build FCEV 2.0 which is 50% cheaper in parts.

They could just go and get another $500m from another R/S. or they can restructure the debt commitments and start over in my view as part of a private equity firm who would fund the 6 months needed to get to a operations cash flow positive quickly
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Torez Torez 16 시간 전
They stole investores money!! Couple of RS and now bankruptcy- management need to end up in prison 
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BottomBounce BottomBounce 17 시간 전
$NKLA $.0001 coming, Nikola is the next Ideanomics = Bankrupt. Nikola Considers Bankruptcy, Capping EV Maker’s Wild Ride https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nikola-considers-bankruptcy-capping-ev-000314645.html
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BottomBounce BottomBounce 17 시간 전
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=175775356 $NKLA
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ptcgolf ptcgolf 17 시간 전
Actually "inept" is the correct term. They did an RS, already wiping out common holders. If they clearly understood the first thing about capital preservation and managing cash burn they would have been doing the correct things for survival. Cut management salaries or suspend them, cut staff, sell excess components. It could have been done with some additional dilution.
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uksausage uksausage 17 시간 전
Mgt team have been running a battle and losing. not inept but it takes time to get the volume commitments from national fleets. the battery recall didn't help the cash flow that would have given them the 6 months needed to get to FCEV 2.0 and profitable trucks.

I am expecting chapter 11 then sold to private equity, hey are so close to being successful
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Torez Torez 17 시간 전
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ptcgolf ptcgolf 18 시간 전
BK looks to be the path. Management team here clearly has no understanding of running a company, "Inept" is too nice of a description.

jmho
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 18 시간 전
I do not know how many trucks NKLA sold in Q4 as the cash was publicly running out

But - we all know that NKLA produced and fueled hundreds of trucks

Does the Arizona plant get closed and fenced in - or does someone like IVECO or HYUNDAI buy it for a dollar - assume debt and input needed cash

?
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 18 시간 전
The Bloomberg - Yahoo - story seems to repeat what I have read on some messenger part of Facebook devoted to NKLA.

At same time - seems there are only two choices ----1) CH 11 (or worse) and 2) A merger where equity in NKLA is wiped out but maybe a bigger company takes over - with H Trucks and Battery Trucks (and HYLA ?) as subs

Oh well - on the $$ side - it hurts but the pain was a long long time ago - not today
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Torez Torez 18 시간 전
CGI generated trucks are not real trucks, pps tells the true - just like trucks itself for 90 to 0
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Torez Torez 18 시간 전
Scam going to zero, just like amount trucks produced - zero
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Jack_Bolander Jack_Bolander 18 시간 전
MORE BAD NEWS :

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4755904-nikola-dead-end-approaching-quickly-strong-sell?mailingid=38513978&messageid=2800&serial=38513978.5726&source=email_2800&utm_campaign=rta-stock-article&utm_medium=email&utm_source=seeking_alpha&utm_term=38513978.5726


STRONG SELL !
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WeTheMarket WeTheMarket 18 시간 전
Nikola considers bankruptcy, capping EV maker’s wild ride
February 6, 2025
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nikola-considers-bankruptcy-capping-ev-000314645.html
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OPKOHEALTH2022 OPKOHEALTH2022 19 시간 전
What was he CEO thinking here buying before the RS ? He invested half a million dollars now worth about 50k in 3 months . CEO’s are supposed to be ahead of things but in this case he was just a gambler . IMO
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OPKOHEALTH2022 OPKOHEALTH2022 20 시간 전
BK seems to be a possibility here now ….. pre-market does not look good here .
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uksausage uksausage 1 일 전
well over 100 BEV are running again and over 300 FCEV as well

But unfortunately looks like bankruptcy or sale to private equity (my expectation) happening his month
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Torez Torez 1 일 전
Lol what a scam , where are the trucks??? 0 trucks produced - zero
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Fredric Fredric 2 일 전
This is still my dream by. Idc what the oos is doing. It's crazy cheap. I've bought and sold several times of the last couple years. I will be buying again soon as it hits its bottom. Thus is the future. As long as I can remember since before the pandemic and throughout all I emscreamed was F electric cars 🚗  you guys better buy I to hydrogen. Fortunate 500 Co are buying and Investing undercover car companies have hydrogen fuel cars smart cities and blockchain mining systems will be run off this stuff. Why do you think all the fires are happening by the sea. Because they will build smart cities powered by the ocean/sea plenty of salt water. 🧂 💧 salt conducts electricity 

If you don't get it by now. You won't 

This is the future 🙌🏿 
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 3 일 전
Sell now?
Never was more than 2% of holdings and now is .000000001 or whatever

The transformation of TRUCKS to clean energy should happen and its fun to watch. The speculation was drowned months ago.
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igotthemojo igotthemojo 3 일 전
“but maybe a big partner buys 80% via new shares (in essence for free) and agrees to invest $500MM ccash over the next 18 months”

Wow…maybe the tooth fairy and Santa Claus will join together and do it…

“give the stock to my kids”

Probably far better off selling it now and giving them the cash, because in a few years, they might not be able to buy an ice cream with the proceeds…
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 4 일 전
Agree
and I know I have to be diluted ---- but maybe a big partner buys 80% via new shares (in essence for free) and agrees to invest $500MM ccash over the next 18 months

I stay an owner - diluted big again - but an owner and give the stock to my kids
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TheKRA TheKRA 4 일 전
Up 10% now. I have to wonder who is buying, and why. I'd like to hope something good is going on, but I've unfortunately lost a lot of hope in the company.
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 4 일 전
And yes - if I knew that buying now would make me a 20% owner of a 250M issued and outstanding common share company with 500MM cash --- i would buy before the news and dilution
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 4 일 전
Up six cents
Yes - - just six cents --- but up ?

In two - four months I simply want to be some sort of owner of NKLA (maybe diluted by issuing say 200 Million NEW shares to a "partner" that then is 80% owner of some joint venture or ?

But buying into a ferocious cash burn with no news from the company - surprises me
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 1 주 전
oops
but not selling --- at this point
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 1 주 전
one days burn rate is my guess
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Bruno2 Bruno2 1 주 전
Jan 30, 2025 : Mullen Completes Purchase of Additional Nikola Battery Assets for US Battery Production

https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2025/01/30/3018137/0/en/Mullen-Completes-Purchase-of-Additional-Nikola-Battery-Assets-for-US-Battery-Production.html
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Torez Torez 1 주 전
Yes, this company is a SCAM
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igotthemojo igotthemojo 1 주 전
"but a ton - and more companies are exploring H as a power source for Trucks and Cars and Forklifts and Factories"

trucks aint working...cars aint working...forklifts seem to be a thing...i should think factories could be a thing...in the future...but not at the moment...

"and you watch for AI DATA centers"

The Chinese AI app "DeepSeek" just blew all our AI stuff out of the water...they did theirs at a fraction of the cost and using only a fraction of the energy and utilized chips that were considered inferior to NVDA's...and its a better product...havent you noticed all the companys that are dropping in price as a result...so far, it looks like all the power that was thought to be needed to run AI will not be necessary...

"but NKLA does need to find 500M or so to carry it to cash neutral"

NKLA needs to put on a red dress and high heels and stand under a street light...it needs to sell itself before it becomes literally worthless...

solar power and hydrogen are two different things...
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 1 주 전
SPAM
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 1 주 전
yup
dimmer chances

but a ton - and more companies are exploring H as a power source for Trucks and Cars and Forklifts and Factories and you watch for AI DATA centers

but NKLA does need to find 500M or so to carry it to cash neutral and with DJT that is not coming from GOV but it was not coming from GOV under BIDEN either

H will prove itself or not ---- we will see --- and at that point it matters not political climate (see Solar Power grow and grow and grow - and watch that continue after Biden)
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Torez Torez 2 주 전
There are no trucks - all CGI/AI generated. 0 trucks on the road - ATH $90 to almost zero - thats your proof 
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igotthemojo igotthemojo 2 주 전
“Yet - people buy shares and the company makes trucks and talks to potential partners”

Yes, investors lose money everyday in Nkla…the company is still selling trucks at a huge loss…and talking costs nothing thank goodness or Nkla wouldn’t be able to afford it…

In a political climate where hydrogen was thought to be the next big thing and billions of Fed dollars were going to be thrown at it, and Nkla could not manage to make a go of it…

And now that the political climate is turning against hydrogen, seriously, what are nkla’s chances?….
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 2 주 전
without spitting on others

I agree that buying now does not make sense - and I think its 4-6 months that I have been saying that

Yet - people buy shares and the company makes trucks and talks to potential partners
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 2 주 전
I would like to stay an owner but

but at current valuation of my shares

I would be in favor of a white knight

yet prefer some sort of partnership - as rumored about Hyundai - that would give current equity say 10-49 percent ownership

is there a hat with a rabbit in it nearby
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igotthemojo igotthemojo 2 주 전
"and I would like to see Q4 sales numbers"

what for?...this company is toast...the pps was in the $30's when nkla said they wanted to r/s...it was in the $10 range when they actually did the r/s in late June....the pps now is 88 cents...

in 7 months, this company just rendered a 1-30 r/s useless...nkla cant make a profit selling the trucks they make because they lose $200k per truck...the sales numbers are meaningless...they will never sell enough trucks to make a profit...they have a shot if they ever get to the 2.0 trucks...but even then, its not much a shot...and who knows when they get there anyway...

anyone who had 100k shares before the first split, now has 3.3k shares....and if nkla does another 1-30 split, they will have 111 shares...

anyone that is still holding this stock is doing so because theres no real point in selling what they have...its peanuts now...may as well just hold and hope for the best...

i cant imagine why anyone would be interested in investing at this point....or really, any point...
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uksausage uksausage 2 주 전
saw HYLA weekly numbers - doing "Record" fills and volume every week but still no Q4 delivery report which I expect was well within expectations.

Company seems to be in some sort of management spiral.

Hopefully they sell to private equity who can inject necessary cash to get FCEV 2.0 to volume production and profitability.

unfortunately current shareholders will lose out but the company and future of emission free vehicles could be saved.
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 2 주 전
yup if

it comes down to --- how does NKLA raise the cash needed ------ and or does it fail to raise the cash needed

and I would like to see Q4 sales numbers
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igotthemojo igotthemojo 2 주 전
"but its not likely that the 11 papers are at the lawyers as reported here and there --- and the PPS on one half million shares is down "only a penny" ??"

from the Jan 6 high to today's low, is drop of over 50%...many have bailed out of this stock...those who are still hanging on will see another steep drop if bad news is actually reported instead of rumored...
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 2 주 전
with stocks around $1 there is massive speculation

but its not likely that the 11 papers are at the lawyers as reported here and there --- and the PPS on one half million shares is down "only a penny" ??

I would love to see the company report something

new trucks

or yes - they are STILL in talks with HYUNDAI or whatever
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Donotunderstand Donotunderstand 2 주 전
rumors being reported that are not fun to read

we should know more today ?

?
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AKATITUS AKATITUS 2 주 전
Interesting
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