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InterDigital Inc

InterDigital Inc (IDCC)

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Monterey2000 Monterey2000 3 일 전
I used AI ChatGPT for its thoughts to explain what might have caused last night’s $40+ trade in after-hours.

Below is AI ChatGPT’s response.
An investor might buy just a few shares in the after-market at a significantly higher price than the day’s closing price due to the following reasons:

1. Testing Liquidity & Price Movement
• Some traders place small orders to gauge supply and demand in after-hours trading.
• If their small buy is filled at a much higher price, they may reconsider making a larger purchase.

2. Low Liquidity & Wide Spreads
• After-hours trading has fewer participants, leading to wider bid-ask spreads.
• A small market order could execute at a much higher price than expected due to limited sellers.

3. Urgency & FOMO (Fear of Missing Out)
• An investor may believe a stock will gap up at the next open and rush to buy, even at a premium.
• They might buy a small amount first to secure a position before committing more capital.

4. Market Manipulation or Testing Stop-Loss Levels
• Some traders use small trades to artificially move the price, triggering stop-losses or buy signals.
• This could encourage larger investors to react, creating a self-fulfilling price movement.

5. Retail Investor Behavior
• A retail investor may mistakenly place a market order instead of a limit order, resulting in a high fill price.
• New investors might not be aware of after-hours trading risks.

If an investor’s small after-hours buy is filled at a much higher price, they might consider a larger purchase for several reasons:

1. Confirmation of Demand & Momentum
• A higher fill price might indicate strong buying pressure, suggesting the stock could continue rising.
• Investors may see this as a bullish signal and decide to buy more before the price increases further.

2. Limited Selling Pressure & Low Liquidity
• If a small order executes at a higher price due to low liquidity, the investor might believe that larger institutions will step in when the market reopens, pushing the price even higher.
• They might be willing to pay a premium now rather than risk an even higher open price.

3. Strategic Accumulation
• Some investors buy in small increments to avoid moving the price too much at once.
• If the initial small buy executes at a high price but still sees buying interest, they may continue accumulating shares in stages.

4. Fear of Missing Out (FOMO)
• If the investor believes the stock is about to experience a major breakout, they might accept the high price as a cost of getting in early.
• This often happens when positive news is released after market close.

5. Stop-Loss or Buy Signal Triggers
• Some traders place small orders to test price levels and see if automated buy orders (such as stop-limit or momentum-based buys) get triggered.
• If these orders activate, they may feel more confident about increasing their position.
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Gamco Gamco 3 일 전
Oreeno $216. EOM 
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Monterey2000 Monterey2000 3 일 전
It may have been just TC’s 5 o’clock Charlie playing with our minds again. Who knows.

Somebody apparently got squeezed out to pay $40+ over closing price. IMHO.
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FanOfspringsteen FanOfspringsteen 3 일 전
Yahoo ap prompted a notification about a conference call yesterday, maybe some good news.  I saw nothing published though. 
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ciciagt ciciagt 3 일 전
The names I listed are just from two pages of mickey’s posts. He posted over 8,000 times thru the years. I’m sure you’re on another page of his.
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tnyellowtomcat tnyellowtomcat 3 일 전
ciciagt,

I am surprised my name is not on your list. I bot my IDCC shares in 1995 to 1998 and have been on all the boards for years.

Tomcat
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dws dws 3 일 전
Brings back
Memories for sure. Ronnie Marchman provided some great financial analysis for us. How about ddodd?
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ciciagt ciciagt 3 일 전
The after hours move prompted me to look up mickey’s “to da moon” mantra. In just two of his pages back around 2003, these long time investor names appeared. I recognize them all. They’d be impressed at IDCC today. Some are still here, and there’s certainly lots of other names we old timers recognize. The pages I read didn’t have an LaRanger post, but sure glad Gamco acknowledges his o’reenos! Here’s to many more o’reenos in 2025.

ams13sag
Spree
Danny Detail
Loophole
Bulldzr
Data_Rox
ed_ferrari
mschere
Dishfan
0nceinalifetime
arthritis65
Ellismd
Jaykayjones
rmarchma
JimLur
Par.q
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orientbull orientbull 3 일 전
39 shares at 256 after hours per nasdaz after hours..
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my3sons87 my3sons87 3 일 전
Is am seeing IDCC up over $41 in after hours.
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my3sons87 my3sons87 3 일 전
I just saw IDCC at $226 after hours. Is anyone hearing anything?
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jealmc79 jealmc79 3 일 전
The convertible bonds are all offset by the calls IDCC owns and the $460 million principal IDCC will pay back in cash.  There wasn't any share increase due to convertible bonds with the 2024 bonds that were recently settled.  The 500,000 share dilution was due to the warrants IDCC issued with them.  IDCC payed the $126 million principal for the 2024 bonds in cash and covered the rest with the calls they had. If you'd read the annual and quarterly reports you would know this.

The  3 million shares that IDCC would currently owe to cover the warrants may be used in their calculations, but who knows.
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Gamco Gamco 3 일 전
Does anyone have any insight concerning the recent change in "Institutional Ownership"? For numerous months, the Institutional Ownership was reported by most services to be 103% of the outstanding shares. I had believed that this was a result of the over-sized short position in IDCC. However the monthly average of shorts has been cut in half during the past 7 to 8 months. In recent days the Institutional Ownership is being reported to be around 107.34% (Yahoo) to 108.99% (brokerage). What is being reported as Institutional Ownership in the brokerage services that you have access to?
Could it be that the Convertible Bond holders have authorized their intention to convert their bond but IDCC may NOT be obligated to transfer the shares until the bond issue matures? And those bond holders that have converted are now reporting those share holdings as though it were restricted shares that are being held by an institution? I'm asking, because I don't profess to know.
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jealmc79 jealmc79 3 일 전
At todays price you have another 3 million shares in dilution for the warrants included with the 2027 Notes.  More than enough shares to cover those shorts. The 2024 notes cost the company about 500,000 shares of dilution on top of the interest and the cost of hedging. Some pretty damn expensive financing for a loan they didn't need if you ask me.
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my3sons87 my3sons87 4 일 전
$215.33 on the last trade. I love oreeno's
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Gamco Gamco 4 일 전
Oreeno $215. EOM
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tnyellowtomcat tnyellowtomcat 4 일 전
2 million shares short!!?

That is STILL a lot of fuel for the rocket!

Tomcat
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my3sons87 my3sons87 4 일 전
Gamco we are at $214.98 for the high today. Shouldn't we be able to get a $215 oreeno. Go IDCC, which I like others saw many years ago.
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scooby5 scooby5 4 일 전
Time to finalize the arbitration Mr. Arbitrator!
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Gamco Gamco 4 일 전
Oreeno $214. EOM
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Gamco Gamco 5 일 전
IDCC Short interest: 2.07M shares as of 1/31/25, down from 2.19M shares as of 1/15/25.
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Gamco Gamco 6 일 전
From Gemini:
Tesla has been involved in a legal dispute with InterDigital and Avanci concerning 5G patent licensing for its vehicles. Here's a summary of the situation:
Tesla's Lawsuit:
* Tesla filed a lawsuit in the UK against InterDigital and Avanci, seeking a determination of whether Avanci's licensing terms for 5G patents were fair, reasonable, and non-discriminatory (FRAND).
* Tesla also sought to invalidate three of InterDigital's UK patents that are part of the Avanci 5G pool.
* Tesla argued that it already had a 4G license from Avanci and wanted a preferential rate for 5G.
Court Decisions:
* The UK High Court initially dismissed Tesla's case, stating that there were no serious issues to be tried against either Avanci or InterDigital.
* Tesla is currently appealing this decision.
Key Issues:
* FRAND Licensing: The core issue is whether Avanci's licensing terms for 5G patents are fair and non-discriminatory. Tesla argues that they are not.
* Patent Validity: Tesla is challenging the validity of some of InterDigital's patents.
* Jurisdiction: There have been challenges to the UK court's jurisdiction to hear the case.
Avanci's Position:
* Avanci is a patent licensing platform that represents multiple patent holders, including InterDigital.
* Avanci offers a single license to access the essential patents for various technologies, including 5G.
InterDigital's Position:
* InterDigital is a research and development company that holds patents related to mobile, video, and AI technologies.
* InterDigital is part of the Avanci licensing platform.
Potential Outcomes:
* The Court of Appeal could overturn the High Court's decision and allow Tesla's case to proceed.
* The court could uphold the High Court's decision, dismissing Tesla's case.
* The parties could reach a settlement agreement outside of court.
This is an ongoing legal dispute, and the final outcome will have implications for 5G patent licensing in the automotive industry.
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my3sons87 my3sons87 7 일 전
I must say the Eagles opened a major can of "whup azz" on the Chiefs. So the better team won the day.

Next we need IDCC to open their can.
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Paullee Paullee 1 주 전
Fly Eagles, Fly
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scooby5 scooby5 1 주 전
Go Eagles!
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Monterey2000 Monterey2000 1 주 전
JimLur, Great to hear from you!
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Hydro_gen Hydro_gen 1 주 전
P&F tentative price objective is now $281
https://stockcharts.com/freecharts/pnf.php?c=IDCC,PWTADANRBO[P][D][F1!3!!!2!20]
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sammdogg1 sammdogg1 1 주 전
Thank you Jim Lurgio.
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scooby5 scooby5 1 주 전
Jimlur, Good to hear from you.  
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my3sons87 my3sons87 1 주 전
Jimlur it is good to hear from you. Stay strong.
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JimLur JimLur 1 주 전
im here cant see the posts. bad case of AMD
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FanOfspringsteen FanOfspringsteen 1 주 전
Thanks My3Sons 🙏
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tnyellowtomcat tnyellowtomcat 1 주 전
I agree!

Today's price action is MIND NUMINGLY boring!!

WHY can't we be like PLTR, and continue to rise after the post earnings up move? I have been in IDCC since 1995, and I am sick and tired of the "Rodney Dangerfield" treatment of Wall Street concerning our stock price!

Just fuming!

Tomcat
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my3sons87 my3sons87 1 주 전
Fan no rate for Samsung yet. The arb decision will be released this year. 
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FanOfspringsteen FanOfspringsteen 1 주 전
Hi all.... What about Samsung rate ?  At this time, do you think that the results that were released yesterday have already integrated this new rate?
Otherwise should the results be revised and when? 
Thanks 
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scooby5 scooby5 1 주 전
I will say it again.  Our market makers are thieves.
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tnyellowtomcat tnyellowtomcat 1 주 전
BOA =Mouthpiece for the remaining shorts, many of who have lost 4 times their money trying to make 20%.

IMHO - Tomcat
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Gamco Gamco 1 주 전
InterDigital (IDCC)
In a report released today, Scott Searle from Roth MKM maintained a Buy rating on InterDigital, with a price target of $230.00. The company’s shares closed last Thursday at $211.79, close to its 52-week high of $213.37.
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dsteeler dsteeler 1 주 전
In the modern world it is commonly referred to as doubling down. It happens quite frequently, even in politics.
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Monterey2000 Monterey2000 1 주 전
Yes, I believe one of the first was Arthritis on the Yahoo board.
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my3sons87 my3sons87 1 주 전
We have lost many good IDCC investors during this journey. On all of the old boards as well.
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Paullee Paullee 1 주 전
Chuckle of the day
BoA out with a report. Underperform target 100
He has had the same target for at least 9 months

How does he keep his job?
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FanOfspringsteen FanOfspringsteen 1 주 전
Those were his words, yes. And it helps me sometimes to hear these positive words when the shares were heavily tanking, despite fundamentals. 
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scooby5 scooby5 1 주 전
Who can forget the biggest Interdigital cheerleader there ever was - Mickey Britt.  Interdigital is  SCREAMING BUY!
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tnyellowtomcat tnyellowtomcat 1 주 전
Yes - I wish "L.A. Ranger" was still alive to see this!

I enjoyed his "coffee shop" comments on IDCC in the late 1990s and early 2000s.

Tomcat
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sammdogg1 sammdogg1 1 주 전
All these years, all those boards.
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Monterey2000 Monterey2000 1 주 전
I was thinking about JimLur today as well. Certainly would also be great if Loophole and others were still among us to celebrate with us.

Congrats to all longs who persevered with their IDCC investment all those years to finally be rewarded in stock price and now with an increased dividend.
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dws dws 1 주 전
Jumlur are you out there? We owe a debt of gratitude to you sir. 
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tnyellowtomcat tnyellowtomcat 1 주 전
The SHORT interest shares fill in the gaps and enable 100%+ institutional ownership of the outstanding shares.

Tomcat
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Paullee Paullee 2 주 전
Seeking Alpha recap
InterDigital targets $1B in annual recurring revenue by 2030 with strong 2024 performance
Feb. 06, 2025 3:03 PM ETInterDigital, Inc. (IDCC) StockAI-Generated Earnings Calls Insights

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Earnings Call Insights: InterDigital, Inc. (NASDAQ:IDCC) Q4 2024

Management View
CEO Liren Chen highlighted that 2024 marked the best financial results in InterDigital’s history, with revenue increasing 140% year-over-year in Q4 to $253 million. He emphasized the company’s strategic progress, including licensing agreements with major players such as Oppo, ZTE, and Google, which contributed to a record annual revenue of $869 million. This represents the highest revenue achieved by the company.
Chen discussed the company’s strategic focus for 2025, which includes expanding licensing agreements with unlicensed smartphone vendors and growing its consumer electronics and IoT programs. He also highlighted ongoing efforts to monetize video technology through enforcement actions against Disney.
CFO Rich Brezski noted that Q4 adjusted EBITDA of $198 million exceeded the company’s guidance range, driven by catch-up revenue from new agreements. He further stated that full-year adjusted EBITDA reached $538 million, with a margin of 63%. Cash generation was robust, with $192 million in cash flow from operations in Q4.
Outlook
Management has guided total revenue for 2025 in the range of $660 million to $760 million, adjusted EBITDA of $400 million to $495 million, and non-GAAP EPS of $9.69 to $12.92. This outlook factors in contributions from new agreements and arbitration outcomes expected during the year.
Chen reiterated the company’s long-term ambition to achieve more than $1 billion in annual recurring revenue and $600 million in adjusted EBITDA by 2030, supported by its robust licensing strategy and expanding addressable markets.
Financial Results
Q4 2024 revenue of $253 million surpassed analysts’ estimates of $244.2 million. Adjusted EPS for the quarter was $5.15, slightly below analysts’ estimates of $5.36, due to higher dilution from convertibles.
Full-year revenue reached $869 million, reflecting a 58% year-over-year increase. Consumer electronics and IoT programs contributed $269 million, more than tripling from prior-year levels.
Cash flow from operations for the year totaled $272 million, with free cash flow of $213 million. The company returned $110 million to shareholders through buybacks and dividends during the year.
Q&A
Scott Searle, ROTH Capital Partners: Asked about the Disney enforcement timeline and opportunities in the video streaming segment. Chen explained that while timelines for lawsuits are uncertain, the company remains open to negotiations during litigation. He emphasized that engagement with other streaming providers is ongoing.
Arjun Bhatia, William Blair: Inquired about recurring revenue growth and Samsung arbitration outcomes. CFO Brezski highlighted that recurring revenue ended Q4 at $117 million, annualizing to $468 million. Chen noted that the Samsung arbitration decision is expected soon and could result in an uplift in revenue.
Tal Liani, Bank of America: Questioned the impact of geopolitical tensions on Chinese customers. Chen assured that the company’s global technology and strong relationships with policymakers mitigate risks, emphasizing ongoing support across multiple jurisdictions.
Sentiment Analysis
Analysts expressed cautious optimism, focusing on recurring revenue growth and potential arbitration outcomes. Questions highlighted concerns about geopolitical risks and the timing of video licensing agreements.
Management maintained a confident tone during prepared remarks, emphasizing record performance and long-term growth targets. However, they showed caution when addressing litigation timelines and geopolitical challenges.
Compared to the previous quarter, management’s tone reflected increased confidence due to strong Q4 performance and significant licensing progress.
Quarter-over-Quarter Comparison
Guidance for 2025 reflects a slight moderation from elevated 2024 results, reflecting fewer catch-up revenues. However, recurring revenue growth remains a focus, with management projecting double-digit ARR growth for 2025.
Compared to Q3 2024, Q4 saw a significant revenue boost driven by catch-up payments from new agreements with Oppo, Lenovo, and ZTE.
Analysts maintained consistent concerns on recurring revenue sustainability and geopolitical risks, similar to Q3. However, management’s confidence in achieving long-term targets has strengthened.
Risks and Concerns
Management highlighted the potential for prolonged litigation in video streaming disputes, particularly with Disney. They emphasized readiness to enforce patents while pursuing amicable negotiations.
Analysts raised concerns about geopolitical tensions affecting Chinese customers and potential delays in licensing renewals, particularly with Xiaomi.
Expirations of major agreements, including the Xiaomi contract in late 2025, pose a risk to recurring revenue.
Final Takeaway
InterDigital delivered record-breaking results in 2024, driven by significant licensing agreements and growth across its consumer electronics and IoT programs. The company remains focused on achieving its long-term target of $1 billion in annual recurring revenue by 2030. While geopolitical risks and litigation timelines present challenges, management’s strategic initiatives and robust cash flow position the company well for sustained growth in 2025 and beyond.
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