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Mr Cooper Group Inc

Mr Cooper Group Inc (COOP)

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jhdf51 jhdf51 14 분 전
That platform is not good for asking questions like that..I have tried.

JHD
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goodietime goodietime 20 분 전
imo, You have to question some of the AI answers. According to PerplexityAI, the PA&A has been completed and no more money is going to be paid. Not sure how that can be, when , unless I am mistaken, we are waiting for payment of Book Value for a number of items.
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PickStocks PickStocks 32 분 전
Interesting does it surprise you:  Susman spearheads efforts to weaponize the American legal system and degrade the quality of American elections.
Susman funds groups that engage in dangerous efforts to undermine the effectiveness of the U.S. military through the injection of political and radical ideology, and it supports efforts to discriminate on the basis of race.
Susman has been accused of engaging in unlawful discrimination, including on the basis of race.
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PickStocks PickStocks 53 분 전
Thank you for posting
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DocKB DocKB 55 분 전
I asked chatgpt what happened to the remaining Washington Mutual Inc assets ($33 billion minus $8 billion):
(Part of the) Answer:
"That $25 billion?
It wasn't really there once the FDIC seized WaMu Bank. The seizure wiped out WMI's most valuable asset. After selling parts and settling claims, a fraction was recovered, mostly for creditors. Shareholders? Pretty much wiped out.

Let me know if you want a breakdown of the legal settlements or who got what."

That was after several related questions. Chatgpt cannot draw conclusions on unavailable information, I guess.
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BigBang BigBang 4 시간 전
Hope is our greatest assetPlease explain exactly what “hope” is going to get you.
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cookacrook cookacrook 8 시간 전
Crazy shit. Riding the coattails.
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Royal Dude Royal Dude 16 시간 전
Amen Brother Hope is our greatest asset
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RajuSondh RajuSondh 19 시간 전
Have you guys noticed that this page is recently updated with a lot of new info - or probably it is me because I haven't visited it in a few years..

https://www.fdic.gov/bank-failures/status-washington-mutual-bank-receivership

The DBNTC-JPMC-FDIC Settlement did not resolve certain claims by the Receiver against JPMC, including the Receiver’s claims against JPMC relating to its alleged participation with other banks in manipulating certain benchmark rates and markets. It also preserved all claims of the Receiver against other persons who caused losses to WAMU prior to its failure, including claims relating to restitution orders and all regulatory and supervisory claims of FDIC-C. The Receiver anticipates that it will make a final distribution at a later date, however, consistent with the depositor preference scheme provided in 12 U.S.C. § 1821(d)(11)(A), it is unlikely that the Receiver will have funds to distribute to holders of receivership certificates issued to WAMU subordinate note holders or equity holders.
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BBANBOB BBANBOB 19 시간 전
lmaorotff
HOW ON EARTH DO YOU WAKE UP SO NEGATIVE EVERY SINGLE DAY

Been HERO OR ZERO here from day one, but I damn sure don't wake up thinking there is NO HOPE, I just can't buy it, BUT I AM 100% PREPARED IF IF IF IN THAT ENDS UP BEING THE CASE
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jhdf51 jhdf51 20 시간 전
Or an end to something that never began.
Who knows?
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clintonj clintonj 21 시간 전
Interesting newflow. Just to bad it stops way short of anything meaningful to escrow holders. But maybe it's a start.
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continuity continuity 21 시간 전
amazing.
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newflow newflow 21 시간 전
https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/04/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-addresses-risks-from-susman-godfrey/
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KeyKey KeyKey 22 시간 전
Thank you @novascotiaSTS.
Then my hope for further returns will also get smaller, although there is still some remaining and I never would say that there won't be anything further for 100%. Because nobody knows for sure.
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ChangnoiPlaza ChangnoiPlaza 23 시간 전
interesting information about US Bond market

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novascotiaSTS novascotiaSTS 23 시간 전
Not sure what you don’t understand or why this would a question of belief.

People who did not release obviously did not get any Escrows or WMIH.

They retained the right to sue JPM but did not.
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lodas lodas 1 일 전
For those of you that still believe that more recovery is coming, the era of WAMU/WMI is over 13 years ago, with all parties to the amended POR7, GSA, and the chapter 11 closure in agreement......a new dysfunctional financial order has begun under the DJT administration...the old way of life for many, and perhaps you, will be impacted by the actions taken by this administration....already hundreds of thousands of government, private jobs have been eliminated...Stellantis Motors, as well as GM intends to lay off thousands of assembly workers making electric vehicles, cuts in government nets for healthcare, SS benefits, Food safety, health agencies, and so forth are extant, and more cuts in government programs are on the horizon...many of you that post on this board are arrogant, smug, falsely erudite about events that have, or will be enfolding as the next 4 years move forward with this administration..... I strongly advise that the focus of your attention should shift from this Wamu saga, and attention given to the protection of your wealth, and your way of life......what is a fact is, that higher interest rates, inflation, and the Dollar Dominance is under question by world markets who BUY OR DEBT.....The U.S. Treasury is the agency that bankrolls the american engine to SELL Bonds, T Bills to world markets... as of now, the perception of the USA is not rosy as before these tariffs were enacted.... the seminal question now is: will countries BUY our debt, or will those countries with huge surpluses redeem the Treasury Holding they hold?......if we cannot sell our debt at reasonable interest rates other countries will want higher interest rates to buy them!!!!....this will cause massive inflation, and budget deficits to rise even beyond the 36 trillion dollars that we presently have...in addition, DJT is pressing congress to pass the 4 trillion dollar tax reduction, and spending plan....my point?... quit the bulls**t posting about returning assets from WAMU/WMI and concentrate on how to preserve your wealth in view of what is coming if this administration fails to deliver on the promises made by the DJT administration...is your portfolio insulated from loss in equity securities, is your wealth put in a Trust?.... just some of the questions you should ask yourself... to be forearmed is to be secure.... Lodas
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KeyKey KeyKey 1 일 전
Is this really true. They did not receive anything ? Hard to believe.
Then one could assume that there should be a lot of claims at the court. For e.g. Lehman and former Yahoo-Company I have received my Escrows automatically without doing anything. Strange if somebody would accept receiving nothing just because no paperwork has been signed.
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ChangnoiPlaza ChangnoiPlaza 1 일 전
Who can imagine that the big decision-makers could defraud 6,800 companies? No way

https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=176053043


https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=176053046
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$27 $27 1 일 전
No more docs to read for me about wamu. If they are crooked so be it. Want to get paid and go on with life. We are fortunate if you ask me.
Be well
$27
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MadBadger MadBadger 1 일 전
They are Patient. They have a Plan. They are very Strategic!
Look at the Players Play and how they just make up a company load it up with assets and sell it for themselves. just to justify the Transfer of Wealth.
This is a Con Game!
The UnderWriters are the Winners!
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1830197/000114036121002962/nt10016075x17_424b4.htm
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novascotiaSTS novascotiaSTS 1 일 전
People who released received WMIH shares and Escrows.

People who did not release did not receive WMIH shares or Escrows.
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xoom xoom 1 일 전
Lodas, to answer your question , you just need to switch to your other id.
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KeyKey KeyKey 1 일 전
@creyno58: I would say it depends ..
Let's see if somebody can answer my question.
Who was a "Non-Releaser" and got Escrows as well as all WMI-shares and Mr.Cooper-shares dirstibutions nevertheless. Or was there any distribution which was just received by the releasers but not by the non-releasers ? Probably this questions has been answered already in the past, but I don't remember.
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creyno58 creyno58 1 일 전
So have we all finally given up on the notion that anything will ever come back to us from the estate?
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KeyKey KeyKey 1 일 전
So why did we sign the documents and have given releases ?
Did we only get WMI- and Mr.Cooper- shares in the past because we have given our releases ?
Did not all shareholder get Escrows, doesn't matter if the have signed releases or not ? @lodas ?
Sorry for these questions, but I'm not aware about. I thought that we (the "release-signers") did not have a benefit yet to them who didn't sign releases. And if this is the case, then there still might be the possibility that something further is coming. But maybe someone can explain once again what the difference is between them who signed releases and them who didn't sign releases. Thanks
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jhdf51 jhdf51 2 일 전
I love ChatGPT. Not always spot on but mostly.

JHD
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jhdf51 jhdf51 2 일 전
As soon as she can chew.

JHD
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sunshinevibrations sunshinevibrations 2 일 전
Now that people are dumping U.S. Treasury bonds because they're fearful of the uncertainty of our government's actions, we can expect mortgage rates to rise. I don't know, but as holders of the shares of a company that is dependent upon a healthy mortgage market, this doesn't seem good. None of us should be downplaying this madness or ignoring the impact of politics on our personal investments. We have every right to be pissed because none of this had to happen.

This from Rocket:

The ripple effect of bonds on mortgage rates

The ripple effect of these shifts is felt in mortgage rates. Mortgage lenders set their rates slightly above bond yields to attract risk-averse real estate investors while offering them a safeguard through property collateral.

This means when bond rates go up due to dropping prices, mortgage rates generally grow to match the trend. On the other hand, strong bond markets with high prices and low yields lead to reduced mortgage rates.

https://www.rocketmortgage.com/learn/how-bonds-affect-mortgage-rates
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Nightdaytrader Nightdaytrader 2 일 전
Oh Lodas, geeeez, can't you read? "ALL ASSETS REQUIRED, AND THOSE NOT REQUIRED TO BE REPORTED WERE MADE TO THE BANKRUPTCY COURT," So they reported assess not required to be reported. So what? That doesn't mean these are the non-bankruptcy assets and even if they were, it doesn't say those assets were turned over to bankruptcy court. You're working too hard trying to convince us nothing is coming back. Tell your boss it's not working and I want my money, and soon idiot.
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lodas lodas 2 일 전
DJT tariff actions is causing a fundamental shift in the safety of American Bonds, and the Dollar as the reserve currency.... read on from experts on the subject:
By the numbers: The yield on the 10-year U.S. Treasury note was 4.57% as of 11am ET Friday. That level is not worrying (rates were higher as recently as January) but the speed and direction of travel are.

The 10-year yield was under 4% one week ago.
Meanwhile, the dollar index — the dollar's value versus six other major currencies — is down 3.4% since Tuesday and 9.2% since mid-January. Those are massive swings by the standard of the most liquid global currency markets.
Between the lines: It suggests that erratic leadership, ballooning fiscal deficits, and rapidly eroding diplomatic ties are making global investors wary of being too exposed to the United States.

What they're saying: The market, Deutsche Bank currency strategist George Saravelos wrote, "is re-assessing the structural attractiveness of the dollar as the world's global reserve currency and is undergoing a process of rapid de-dollarization."

Of note: It kind of got lost in the news shuffle given the trade and market shifts, but also this week the House passed a budget blueprint that lays the groundwork to extend President Trump's 2017 tax cuts.

It allows Congress to raise fiscal deficits by up to $5.8 trillion over the next decade, relative to current law under which those tax cuts expire at year-end.
The Capitol Hill action wasn't an apparent catalyst for the bond market moves. Still, it underscores the risks investors are taking by lending to a nation with already high deficits and debt.
Zoom out: In the near term, it implies that investors can't benefit from the usual shelter-in-the-storm effect. If you have a portfolio of both stocks and bonds, it helps if one zigs while the other zags, but that hasn't happened this week.

In the medium term, it could mean structurally higher U.S. interest rates and more market pressure to reduce deficits.
In the long term, if this really does prove to be the start of a reshuffling of the global economic order, trade, and financial flows, the implications are so sweeping that they're hard to even predict.
The bottom line: Markets can behave weirdly, and maybe this will turn out to be just a few bumpy trading days. But the world's most important financial markets — for the dollar and Treasury securities — are signaling that something fundamental is shifting beneath our feet.

Lodas
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ron_66271 ron_66271 2 일 전
Why Would Treasury Need to meet with Wall Street $

The SWF is about the Government’s wealth (We the People) not Wall Street’s.

Very few people understand the Derivative Market Meltdown of 2008.

TBTF FAILED.

TBTF Now needs to pay for the CDS to MBS/CMBS.

The numbers are the numbers.

Did LIBOR settle?



Ron
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jhdf51 jhdf51 2 일 전
Haha.. could be.😊

JHD
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lodas lodas 2 일 전
@ Large Green.....your assertions that since WMI opened a DST, then there Must Be Assets..... you are being intellectually Dishonest because you read the documents biased in your erroneous beliefs.... to wit:....this is what the documents say:.....WMI dissolved the 7 trusts of WMMRC, and the assets held in WMIIC and placed them in a DST for payments to claimants in the chapter 11 reorganization....WMI makes the statement, that ALL ASSETS REQUIRED, AND THOSE NOT REQUIRED TO BE REPORTED WERE MADE TO THE BANKRUPTCY COURT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..... what dont you understand about that official declaration!!!!!!!!!....the simple fact is, LG, is that the chapter 11 closed 13 years ago with all parties to the agreements in satisfaction to their claims... Mike Willingham, and Susman made the statement on behalf of the equity claims they represented that the settlements from the COURT ORDERED MEDIATION INTO WMI'S ASSETS WERE FAIR AND REASONABLE!!!!!!!!!!..... what dont you understand about the statement made by Susman, the high profile attorney that represented equity in a Federal Court arbitration hearing!!!!!!!!!!.... give it up man, your posts fall on deaf ears after all these years of producing nothing but false hope..... Lodas
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Large Green Large Green 2 일 전
We know for a fact there are assets for one simple factual point. There MUST be assets in order to open a DST.

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nhtrader nhtrader 2 일 전
Chatgpt couldn't answer what assets made up the trusts, how much is in them, or what the impediments are that keep the trusts from disbursing their contents.
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Large Green Large Green 2 일 전
nhtrader, I tend to agree with this summation. After researching (DST) Delaware Statutory Trusts, I have posted many years ago and many, many times that a DST will play a vital role in our eventual distributions. In the Amended POR 7 signed by the court on 2/23/2012, a DST WMI was opened, and the Trustee for several years was William Kosturos; however, I think the Trustee changed. I do not know who it is currently.

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stoxjock stoxjock 2 일 전
Wow, I really hope that the AI Tool was able to 'decipher'/triangulate on what has been 'Hidden' from us 'small fry' investors in WaMu and provided an accurate account of what transpired...I hope we will all get our 'F&R Promised' through these DSTs. TIA & GLTU!
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$27 $27 2 일 전
Nice video...early may ...right on schedule.
Thank you
Be well
$27
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PickStocks PickStocks 2 일 전
Interesting things is The past two weeks politics has impacted the market!!! 
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ron_66271 ron_66271 2 일 전
Treasury meets with Wall Street,

moves ahead with plans for U.S. sovereign wealth fund.

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2025/04/09/treasury-meets-with-wall-street-moves-ahead-with-plans-for-u-s-sovereign-wealth-fund.html


Wall Street/TBTF owes ~$1.56 Trillion to cover the losses of the RMBS/CMBS market place covered by their CDS insurance contracts.

~$178.5 Billion to cover WaMu MBS losses alone using FDIC numbers of $1.5 Trillion securitized at 11.9% losses according the Globic.

The securitizer (WaMu) would have to buy back into their offering or others offerings to maintain their cash flow from the MBS market.

Does TBTF need another loan?


Plan 6 WMI-LT holds the FDIC Receivership Claims.

WMIHC Holds WMIIC and the other Securities and the subsidiaries.



Ron
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$27 $27 2 일 전
Moderators please stop the politics.
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nhtrader nhtrader 2 일 전
Chatgpt and I had a long talk. She confirmed the existence of trusts backing WAMPQ, WAMKQ, WAMUQ and the other 6 trusts that AZ has mentioned. She said that in 2015 either WMHIC or MR Cooper Groups 10K has the information about the 9 trusts being moved to DST. She confirmed that WMIHC is still around. Chatgpt can't get access to sec files to search for them. I had the chat at a friends and he is going to send me the transcript and I will post it later. If anything else, it was awesome to be able to have a one on one vocal chat about this saga. I suggest it for everyone.
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sunshinevibrations sunshinevibrations 2 일 전
BREAKING: MAGA world erupts in outrage as Blackrock CEO Larry Fink announces that the United States may already be in the midst of a recession thanks to Donald Trump's disastrous tariffs.
He added that America has become a "global destabilizer" under the MAGA regime and he wasn't done there...
"I think we’re very close, if not in, a recession now," Fink said on CNBC.
"I think you’re going to see, across the board, just a slowdown until there’s more certainty. And we now have a 90-day pause on the reciprocal tariffs — that means longer, more elevated uncertainty," he added.
While Trump has dropped the tariffs on most countries down to 10%, pausing the outrageously inflated numbers that he temporarily imposed, he is still locked in an escalating trade war with China.
"Even if the U.S. continues to impose higher tariffs, it will no longer make economic sense, and it will become a joke in the history of the world economy," stated Chinese officials.
Just today, China bumped its tariffs on American goods from 84% to 125% in response to Trump placing an effective 145% on Chinese goods. In addition to skyrocketing inflation, these tariffs are going to destroy American small businesses who rely on those imports.
By slapping the tariffs in place so haphazardly and suddenly, Trump failed to give U.S. companies adequate time to resource their supply chains — meaning that many will wither and die.
Fink stated that Blackrock's clients are facing "uncertainty" and as a result the world's largest asset manager is "spending more time with more conversation with more clients globally than any time. Our job now is to be, you know, helping, calming, giving them, giving them ideas."
"This is not a pandemic. This is not a financial crisis. This is something that we’ve created," he continued. "As I said, also on Monday, United States, post World War II was a global stabilizer. We are the global destabilizer."
"That’s a very hard thing to say, because I pride ourselves of being, you know, bringing the leadership, bringing the conversations," said Fink. "But I will say the power of U.S. capitalism is still alive."
If these tariffs are not reversed soon, the damage could be irreparable. American economic growth will stagnate and countless millions will be immiserated.

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Large Green Large Green 2 일 전
$27, Thanks for the reply. This is very encouraging, so ole Fred may be correct about something by 4/20/2025 on the little one.

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$27 $27 2 일 전
It was 8yrs ago so my memory maybe off. INDYMAC took 7 days. But I know this number can vary. Either way it's ending.
Be well
$27
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ron_66271 ron_66271 2 일 전
Charles Smith

Independent Fiduciary / Transactional & Governance Specialist

WMI Liquidating Trust

Columbia University School of Law
Seattle, Washington, United States


Correct; the WMI-LT isn’t finished because of the Billions/Trillions of RMBS/CMBS accumulated in DST due for Distribution.
Same with F&F and Lehman’s.

Only the Plan 7 LT was completed.



Ron
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newflow newflow 2 일 전
Mr.Smith was active on linkedin in mid 2022 and it means WMI LT is not done yet as his profile shows.
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/kellydiblasi_ten-weil-partners-named-leading-us-bankruptcy-activity-6890128071819939840-8yiT
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PickStocks PickStocks 2 일 전
Trump has 90 days to do 150 trade deals.        Could get interesting.
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